RS2--daniel

The first question that always rears its head when the topic of the hominoids is breached is: "Where are the bodies?" I suppose that this would be a legitimate question. There is of course the story of the Minnesota Ice Man, but apart from this, few if any other stories of this nature exist, i.e. someone claiming to have recovered a body (at least not in the public sector. Who knows what type of ops have been undertaken to locate and capture?) The answer is simple enough: "The earth is a lot more spacious and wild than most understand, and these creatures are masters at remaining well-hidden from we homo sapiens. On top of this, we are dealing with a very unique type of creature here, one whose evolutionary growth falls somewhere between ourselves and the other highly evolved creatures of this planet." Of course, that simply elicits an eye-roll.

One of the questions that I have wondered upon is: Are the powers that be somehow tracking the movements of all hominoids world-wide, 'keeping tabs on them', so to speak? Do they know of their whereabouts, and do they go out of their way to somehow make certain that the inevitable does not occur, i.e. a body is recovered or a live specimen captured? Talk about a firestorm. As Lloyd Pye hinted when speaking of the hominoids, "We will be proven correct." It does seem plausible to think that as we as a species continue to expand across the planet, so to will our chances of encountering these creatures. And if that happens, what's the plan? Another question might be: Why would our lovely friends at NWO, Inc. simply not develop another "project" to track them down and eliminate all traces of them? Why risk having them be 'discovered' at all?

Please share any thoughts on the subject.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:The first question that always rears its head when the topic of the hominoids is breached is: "Where are the bodies?" I suppose that this would be a legitimate question. There is of course the story of the Minnesota Ice Man, but apart from this, few if any other stories of this nature exist, i.e. someone claiming to have recovered a body (at least not in the public sector. Who knows what type of ops have been undertaken to locate and capture?) The answer is simple enough: "The earth is a lot more spacious and wild than most understand, and these creatures are masters at remaining well-hidden from we homo sapiens. On top of this, we are dealing with a very unique type of creature here, one whose evolutionary growth falls somewhere between ourselves and the other highly evolved creatures of this planet." Of course, that simply elicits an eye-roll.

First off, Neanderthals are a peaceful species that does not use SM-based technology. As such, they aren't killing each other off in mass quantities through wars, crime, violence, disease-creating foods and technological incompetence. They also don't have that "dictate from Enlil" to "go forth and multiply," so they aren't overrunning the planet.

As Pye pointed out, we also live in incompatible regions. Neanderthals (Yeti, Sasquatch, etc) cannot tolerate our electromagnetic nightmare that we call "civilization," remaining in remote regions that are inhospitable to man, yet comfortable to them. On the flip side, few men venture into those inhospitable regions for humans, particularly the massive underground system and inner worlds (which, BTW, was one of the original purposes of the HAARP equipment--to map this very extensive underground cave system, and why all those deep scans are considered top secret and a risk to national security).

AnAncientAwakening wrote:One of the questions that I have wondered upon is: Are the powers that be somehow tracking the movements of all hominoids world-wide, 'keeping tabs on them', so to speak? Do they know of their whereabouts, and do they go out of their way to somehow make certain that the inevitable does not occur, i.e. a body is recovered or a live specimen captured? Talk about a firestorm. As Lloyd Pye hinted when speaking of the hominoids, "We will be proven correct." It does seem plausible to think that as we as a species continue to expand across the planet, so to will our chances of encountering these creatures. And if that happens, what's the plan? Another question might be: Why would our lovely friends at NWO, Inc. simply not develop another "project" to track them down and eliminate all traces of them? Why risk having them be 'discovered' at all?

I would suspect that there are VERY FEW hominids on the surface of the northern hemisphere, as mankind has rendered the atmosphere too toxic for much life, with their pollution and chemtrails. All human tech is SM based and therefore can only observe and measure spatial structures--so half the planet is totally invisible to them. That will probably remain the case until Hoffman can perfect his lense.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:The first question that always rears its head when the topic of the hominoids is breached is: "Where are the bodies?" I suppose that this would be a legitimate question.

Boyd Bushman, a former senior engineer at Lockheed Martin, gave an interview before he died this August, in which he talked about UFOs and ETs. He showed photos of a being similar to the one found in Russia and featured in the documentary Sirius. He was told that these beings communicate telepathically with humans, by us hearing our own voices in the head. Although I think he said where they come from, Daniel once commented that they live in inner Earth. I recommend watching the entire 30-min video. [1][2][3]

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AnAncientAwakening wrote:The first question that always rears its head when the topic of the hominoids is breached is: "Where are the bodies?" I suppose that this would be a legitimate question. There is of course the story of the Minnesota Ice Man, but apart from this, few if any other stories of this nature exist, i.e. someone claiming to have recovered a body (at least not in the public sector. Who knows what type of ops have been undertaken to locate and capture?) The answer is simple enough: "The earth is a lot more spacious and wild than most understand, and these creatures are masters at remaining well-hidden from we homo sapiens. On top of this, we are dealing with a very unique type of creature here, one whose evolutionary growth falls somewhere between ourselves and the other highly evolved creatures of this planet." Of course, that simply elicits an eye-roll.

There have been some bodies in Tibet and the Himalayas but from what i've read although some talk openly of large hominids, of which there appear to be four main types including the Yeti/Bigfoot variety, a lot of locals don't tell the westerners anything and will give them disinformation in order to keep them away from hunting the hominids that they know are highly intelligent.

The places they inhabit are not always as remote as you are led to believe and a few books mention there being very large numbers of them, all pretty much going about there business on the planet and often interacting with those who are advanced enough to communicate with them and not bring their guns! There are so many vast inaccessible wildernesses and forests on the planet it is fairly easy for them to remain hidden.

They have the ability to enter the other realm of coordinate time and perform all manner of fascinating psionics as expected from a spiritually advanced hominid; telepathy, manipulating time-space, cloaking/invisibility, incredible strength/velocity/agility, interacting with water, making everything else in the forest silent and so on, just like any other LM's people encounter... these are just the big hairy Neanderthal ones!

They are also well aware of what mankind is up to so it's no wonder that when all this is taken into consideration that bodies aren't easy to come by.

There are some fascinating videos on youtube of which the following is particularly interesting, i'll do another post on Sasquatch audio soon as i've been gathering info on that and it relates to the music posts on Antiquatis:

Finding Bigfoot: Chasing Sasquatch *part 3*
Published on May 3, 2011
This is the third and final clip in this chase. This shows the creature as it is. We all feel that the actions of the creature was a warning to me to get away from its area. The tearing down of the small tree was probably mean to scare me away...which it did
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVMaffYjoI8

Another very telling thing to look out for when reading or watching videos about them is that lots of sightings are around the transition times of the day (dawn/dusk) and many people experience missing time when having an encounter.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:One of the questions that I have wondered upon is: Are the powers that be somehow tracking the movements of all hominoids world-wide, 'keeping tabs on them', so to speak? Do they know of their whereabouts, and do they go out of their way to somehow make certain that the inevitable does not occur, i.e. a body is recovered or a live specimen captured? Talk about a firestorm. As Lloyd Pye hinted when speaking of the hominoids, "We will be proven correct." It does seem plausible to think that as we as a species continue to expand across the planet, so to will our chances of encountering these creatures. And if that happens, what's the plan? Another question might be: Why would our lovely friends at NWO, Inc. simply not develop another "project" to track them down and eliminate all traces of them? Why risk having them be 'discovered' at all?

Please share any thoughts on the subject.

Yeah you can bet they are aware of their movements and as Daniel points out the have mapped everything so it would make sense from their perspective to keep tabs on those who would like to free their slaves and get us back to living in harmony with nature. There are encounters that are followed by a military helicopter buzzing past much like in UFO sightings.

They don't need to worry about evidence getting out so much since they have done a great job over the last century and more of making the subject a laughing stock and flooding the field with disinformation while academia continues to build on the lies of the past, leaving some of the proper investigators who now post online and write books to do the proper research into them and they are turning up quite a lot of stuff that confirms their LM status and place on Tiamat.

I'd recommend reading Abominable Snowmen by Ivan T. Sanderson and Communion with Sasquatch by JP Smith and Freeman Young. Kewaunee Lapseritis is another who's interviews are worth checking out and Bill Lee has a good one online as well. Sanderson's book is a great history lesson on the subject and brings up lots of surprise LM info and sightings while Communion is more recent encounters and equally as fascinating, also providing links to some of the videos like the one above.

Apart from these guys and a few others like Mike Patterson (Sasquatch Ontario) who are aware of the intelligence of these hominids the majority are just redneck hunters out to bag a body, money and fame. Mike is another going out there to communicate with them and his audio recordings are fascinating.

There is a lot of info to go through but i'd highly recommend spending a few weeks doing some research and living with Sasquatch, it's a most enjoyable learning experience and i've put some of the best links to the books, interviews and videos that i've found below for your convenience, enjoy:



Abominable Snowmen, Legend Come to Life
by Ivan T. Sanderson [1961]
http://sacred-texts.com/lcr/abs/index.htm

Communion with Sasquatch
http://sasfootbigquatch.files.wordpress ... quatch.pdf

COMMUNION WITH SASQUATCH: New Book and Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg5764r-yBU

Bigfoot Hotspot Radio EP3 Bill Lee as Guest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH_yqLsJbnE

Kewaunee Lapseritis : The Sasquatch People and Their Interdimensional Connection 5.7.2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APtE9S0Eal4

Kewaunee Lapseritis :: The Psychic (Interdimensional) Sasquatch Oct.14.2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtzZu6cVvrI

Kewaunee Lapseritis Interview : The Ancient Ones ~ Sasquatch People 2-20-2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9hVsianMao

Bases 35 The Sasquatch Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIqyiPz735c

Bases 35 Sasquatch Part 2 End of Humanity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdGJCzTu2AY

Unknown Origins Radio 3.31 - Mike Patterson "Sasquatch Ontario"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7yayV3Jpi4

Sasquatch Ontario
http://www.youtube.com/user/MANASOOCAN

Freeman Young
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtBMVaraN8Oj_at3RF2waow

I'm now thoroughly enjoying Lloyd Pye's Intervention Theory which I kept thinking of while reading Sanderson's book. It's been great having no internet at home for almost three weeks, I got through so many books!

daniel wrote:First off, Neanderthals are a peaceful species that does not use SM-based technology. As such, they aren't killing each other off in mass quantities through wars, crime, violence, disease-creating foods and technological incompetence. They also don't have that "dictate from Enlil" to "go forth and multiply," so they aren't overrunning the planet.

Although if what some researchers say is true there could be a heck of a lot more out there, enough Wookies to build a Death Star!

JP: And they‘ve been there ever since.

Freeman: Yeah. And the numbers are way bigger than Matt Moneymaker says. The numbers are way bigger than anybody is saying right now. I‘m going to say the numbers are in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of hominoids, just in North America. There‘s some math -we could do that we could figure that out actually.

JP: Let‘s touch on that just a little bit. What makes you think there‘s that many?

Freeman: Because I keep finding groups. I don‘t just find one here and one there. I find families. I find pods. And I find the pods in the most unlikely places, right under everyone‘s nose. And they rotate. Those pods rotate out and another pod rotates in. They change their space around where they go. I‘ve been noticing this for the last six years. I‘ve been canvassing these areas for the last six years. And I know that right here in my own backyard, there‘s at least 50 Bigfoot right around here–50 to 100 Bigfoot right in this little open space right here. That‘s a lot. So if I multiply that times all the open spaces that I know of in the state, that‘s where I get my half million from.

Plenty of room in the inner world and underground for that many.

daniel wrote:As Pye pointed out, we also live in incompatible regions. Neanderthals (Yeti, Sasquatch, etc) cannot tolerate our electromagnetic nightmare that we call "civilization," remaining in remote regions that are inhospitable to man, yet comfortable to them. On the flip side, few men venture into those inhospitable regions for humans, particularly the massive underground system and inner worlds (which, BTW, was one of the original purposes of the HAARP equipment--to map this very extensive underground cave system, and why all those deep scans are considered top secret and a risk to national security).

I can barely tolerate our EM nightmare all around us!

Now then, what do you get if you throw all of this Sasquatch info into a galaxy far far away?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookiee

But since everything is backwards it's actually a solar system close close nearby!


http://www.cryptozoonews.com/pancakes/

Djchrismac wrote:

AnAncientAwakening wrote: Now then, what do you get if you throw all of this Sasquatch info into a galaxy far far away?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookiee

But since everything is backwards it's actually a solar system close close nearby!


http://www.cryptozoonews.com/pancakes/

Interesting how the Wookies are the traditional enemies of SM like Trandoshans...

The audio footage posted under the account of Sasquatch Ontario is fascinating. The vocalizations had me spellbound. I couldn't stop listening. Daniel - in your opinion, would that be the real deal? Is that what their language sounds like (at least, those on the North American continent, the Sasquatch)? If so, imagine being there to experience that. In all honesty, I can see how it would take enormous heaps of patience, as it seems that these creatures are attempting to communicate something to this gentleman, but what is it exactly that they are saying? Of course, all of this is a moot point if this is yet another joker playing people for the fool in Internet land. I've seen first-hand what can be done in a recording studio with sound manipulation. Quite simple actually to bend, stretch, and compress the human voice.

I remember hearing chatter years ago that the Neanderthals have evolved in such a way that they are, how shall we say, 'interdimensional' in nature, i.e. able to move in and out of 'phase' with our own reality (my use of verbiage here is obviously not the most accurate in nature, but the meaning is captured). This, some say, might explain why they are so elusive. If there is truth to this, then what exactly is going on here? How are they doing it, and how did they develop such abilities? And if they are moving in and out of 'phase', why? Why show themselves in our 3D space at all, if they have somehow developed the ability to move about undetected in plain sight?

I wonder: What made them so different from the Indigenous peoples of the planet? Both evolved in such a way that they have fully embraced the natural world, and have lived in a symbiotic relationship with the planet.

What a remarkable area of study. There is so much to be gained from this, from interactions between the LMs/Neanderthals and genuinely good people with virtuous ideals and peaceful lifeways. Perhaps a delegation can be formed, one in which information may be shared openly between cultures. Perhaps it's time to share with those whom are worthy of receiving. Small steps --"so simple even a homo sapien sapien can do it." Would this be interference? After all, this planet is home to all of us, and are we not meant to share and live peacefully together? Imagine the possibilities, for all involved. There are enough good things going on right now, and plenty of effort is being put forth to get us on a better evolutionary track, despite the sheer mass of stupidity.

Also Daniel - thank you for the response to my original inquiry. I have a follow up regarding this -

I would suspect that there are VERY FEW hominids on the surface of the northern hemisphere, as mankind has rendered the atmosphere too toxic for much life, with their pollution and chemtrails. All human tech is SM based and therefore can only observe and measure spatial structures--so half the planet is totally invisible to them. That will probably remain the case until Hoffman can perfect his lense.

If that is true, then what is with all of the folks continuing to claim that they are seeing them? Lloyd Pye made mention of them being seen in every state in the U.S. If they have for the most part gone underground, then why all of the sightings? Sure, at this point, it's impossible to tell which are the real deal and which are merely hoaxes (which I would assume would be most) and/or misindentifications, but there are still many who make claims. Case in point: A few years back, I was living in the tiny Northern California town of Willits, working in a small independent grocery Cooperative. One day, one of my co-workers broached the subject of bigfoot (quite unprovoked by me, I might add). This is what she said: "I saw one when I was living further north. I walked out very early one morning and there it was, standing beside my trash cans. It was about the size of a ten year old boy, and was covered in black fur. When it saw me, it ran off." Another co worker chimed in: "My friend saw the same thing. There's some weird stuff up there in those woods." These were simple folks in a tiny town of 3,500 people, mind you, and I didn't get the feeling that they were making this up. They seemed nothing but sincere and quite creeped out; and were happy to end the conversation there.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:The audio footage posted under the account of Sasquatch Ontario is fascinating. The vocalizations had me spellbound. I couldn't stop listening. Daniel - in your opinion, would that be the real deal? Is that what their language sounds like (at least, those on the North American continent, the Sasquatch)?

That is what it sounds like in the 3D space of the world above the surface. Do you remember Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, with the humpback whales? And how they discovered that ancient spaceship was trying to talk to the whales, not the humans? Similar situation.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:but what is it exactly that they are saying? Of course, all of this is a moot point if this is yet another joker playing people for the fool in Internet land. I've seen first-hand what can be done in a recording studio with sound manipulation. Quite simple actually to bend, stretch, and compress the human voice.

A rough translation...

Yeah, wanna do lunch?
No? You'll be the main course!
(chuckle)
Mike, Mike? Mike?
(laughter)
I'm outta here.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:I remember hearing chatter years ago that the Neanderthals have evolved in such a way that they are, how shall we say, 'interdimensional' in nature, i.e. able to move in and out of 'phase' with our own reality (my use of verbiage here is obviously not the most accurate in nature, but the meaning is captured). This, some say, might explain why they are so elusive. If there is truth to this, then what exactly is going on here? How are they doing it, and how did they develop such abilities? And if they are moving in and out of 'phase', why? Why show themselves in our 3D space at all, if they have somehow developed the ability to move about undetected in plain sight?

If you work from the premise put forth in Homo Sapiens Ethicus, they are just more connected with their soul than humans are. Most humans are still strongly connected to a group soul (the crowd mentality) and as such, have little control over the cosmic aspect of life, the soul. The Neanderthals and LMs are strongly connected, and by shifting their consciousness between body and soul, can appear or disappear at will. In a mathematical sense, it is much like moving off the real axis on the Argand diagram, onto the imaginary axis. We only see what is "real."

AnAncientAwakening wrote:I wonder: What made them so different from the Indigenous peoples of the planet? Both evolved in such a way that they have fully embraced the natural world, and have lived in a symbiotic relationship with the planet.

The indigenous peoples are just slaves without a master, that have learned to take care of themselves. They just had some help from the LMs after they were abandoned and took that approach to life. Listen to their legends--they discuss it.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:After all, this planet is home to all of us, and are we not meant to share and live peacefully together? Imagine the possibilities, for all involved. There are enough good things going on right now, and plenty of effort is being put forth to get us on a better evolutionary track, despite the sheer mass of stupidity.

Look at it from the LM perspective... do you share your log cabin with a colony of termites, that are overrunning and devouring it?

The impression I get from the LMs is basically, "humanity... we can only live without it."

I get a lot of inquiries about "how do I contact the LMs?" The answer is--YOU don't. They will contact you, if the necessity arises. And it only arises when mutual cooperation will provide a two-fold benefit, where both you and they will grow from it. That is the harmony of rapport.

Take, for example, LoneBear's vision quest up on Bear Butte. After he was put to the test and remained, the spirits came to him and asked "why have you come here?" He didn't give the standard, human response of "I want xxx" but in all sincerity said something like, "Actually, I'm having a nice time. Is there anything I can do for you?" After the spirits of the ancestors recovered from the shock of such a non-human reply, they asked him for some "help," which drastically altered the course of his life. Of course, LB is always joking about being a Neanderthal, but after the dentists pick on him for his "primate teeth" and that high level of strontium in his bones--normally only found in subterranean species... gotta wonder. Could evolved Neanderthals from Agartha be walking amongst us? Would we even know if they were?

AnAncientAwakening wrote:

I would suspect that there are VERY FEW hominids on the surface of the northern hemisphere, as mankind has rendered the atmosphere too toxic for much life, with their pollution and chemtrails. All human tech is SM based and therefore can only observe and measure spatial structures--so half the planet is totally invisible to them. That will probably remain the case until Hoffman can perfect his lense.

If that is true, then what is with all of the folks continuing to claim that they are seeing them? Lloyd Pye made mention of them being seen in every state in the U.S. If they have for the most part gone underground, then why all of the sightings? Sure, at this point, it's impossible to tell which are the real deal and which are merely hoaxes (which I would assume would be most) and/or misindentifications, but there are still many who make claims. Case in point: A few years back, I was living in the tiny Northern California town of Willits, working in a small independent grocery Cooperative. One day, one of my co-workers broached the subject of bigfoot (quite unprovoked by me, I might add). This is what she said: "I saw one when I was living further north. I walked out very early one morning and there it was, standing beside my trash cans. It was about the size of a ten year old boy, and was covered in black fur. When it saw me, it ran off." Another co worker chimed in: "My friend saw the same thing. There's some weird stuff up there in those woods." These were simple folks in a tiny town of 3,500 people, mind you, and I didn't get the feeling that they were making this up. They seemed nothing but sincere and quite creeped out; and were happy to end the conversation there.

Regarding the Willits incident... kids will be kids. Even in other species.

Also in reference to Chris' comment, I would estimate the Neanderthal population to be somewhere around 300 million. The land area of the Earth is only about 57 million square miles. There are bound to be incidents, given the population density of humanity.

"That is what it sounds like in the 3D space of the world above the surface. Do you remember Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, with the humpback whales? And how they discovered that ancient spaceship was trying to talk to the whales, not the humans? Similar situation."

Yep, I remember. I enjoyed the scene in which Spock jumps into the pool and does the Vulcan Mind Meld on the whale in an attempt to better understand what it is trying to communicate, an act that elicits quite a reaction from both Kirk as well as the Marine Biologist.

I remember laughing at this one:

"Excuse me, do you know where we can find the nuclear wessels?"

The line that really got me, though, was when someone in the group (Bones?) made the comment, "It's a miracle these people ever made it out of the 20th century." I think that I'm wondering the same thing about the 21st century.

What's interesting here is that in the film, the message being shared is understood only by the ship and the whales. So then, all of this chatter back and forth from the Neanderthals is not meant to be understood by Paterson, I would think. Except for part of this:

"A rough translation..."

'Yeah, wanna do lunch?
No? You'll be the main course!
(chuckle)
Mike, Mike? Mike?
(laughter)
I'm outta here.'

Hahaha! So, what you're saying is that this particular group of neanderthals are having fun at this guy's expense, i.e. leaving single footprints in the snow, taking a bite out of an apple and leaving a 'spectral trail' as it flies through the air, placing 'gifts' of wrapped twigs in his bag, etc, as if to say, "We're a lot more intelligent than you're giving us credit for, Mike; and we know all about you and your kind." Still, the simple fact that they are choosing to share this with this gentleman is intriguing. Now I wonder: Can contact be made at some point with people who actually have something to offer besides a few apples beside a 'giving tree'? I mean, sharing food is nice enough, but I think that we can do better.

"...we are dealing with a very unique type of creature here, one whose evolutionary growth falls somewhere between ourselves and the other highly evolved creatures of this planet."

First off, Neanderthals are a peaceful species that does not use SM-based technology. As such, they aren't killing each other off in mass quantities through wars, crime, violence, disease-creating foods and technological incompetence. They also don't have that "dictate from Enlil" to "go forth and multiply," so they aren't overrunning the planet.

It's only now that I realize the idiocy of my previous comment regarding the neanderthals "falling" somewhere between ourselves and the other 'accepted' creatures of the planet. As if to say that Homo Sapiens Sapiens are somehow at the top of some arbitrary pyramid. It truly does take some reprogramming to get out of that mindset. Oftentimes, it takes someone wiser than oneself to see outside the scope of the 'possibilities/limitations' that we set for ourselves when we forget to pick up the latest pair of lenses from Rowdy Roddy Piper

As Pye pointed out, we also live in incompatible regions. Neanderthals (Yeti, Sasquatch, etc) cannot tolerate our electromagnetic nightmare that we call "civilization," remaining in remote regions that are inhospitable to man, yet comfortable to them.

In simplest terms, what exactly is happening here? How is our tapping into the electromagnetic spectrum having an ill-effect on the planet? What are we doing to punish nature, and how is it affecting our bodies down to the cellular level? Also: Your thoughts on "civilization" have really got me thinking these past few days. As I approach the end of the Pythagorean Sourcebook, I realize but one of many things: Everything of which this book speaks in terms of good government, noble leadership within cities, honorable forces to protect those cities (not needed, ultimately, if we live together in harmony as peaceful explorers), righteous society, and virtuous men, women, and families - it's ALL backwards. All of it. We are on the opposite end of this spectrum; and yet, the general populace considers things to be better than ever they have been. As Bruce put it, the only way out of this is through lots of "shit shoveling". What we do upon the bare ground beneath the shit is one of the things that will matter going forward, I believe.

Also, (and I know that the answer to this question may be a bit beyond me at present, but here goes): Where exactly are the Neanderthals 'going' when they render themselves invisible to us in 3D space? Where does the physical body go when the consciousness is shifted from body to soul? By the nature of the footage being taken by Mike Paterson, they are playing tricks by quite literally 'stepping' into and out of 3D space and leaving a single fresh print in the snow. I mean, are they still present in our reality during those moments? Can they still hear, see, smell us when they are away in out-of-phase land?

"If you work from the premise put forth in Homo Sapiens Ethicus, they are just more connected with their soul than humans are. Most humans are still strongly connected to a group soul (the crowd mentality) and as such, have little control over the cosmic aspect of life, the soul. The Neanderthals and LMs are strongly connected, and by shifting their consciousness between body and soul, can appear or disappear at will. In a mathematical sense, it is much like moving off the real axis on the Argand diagram, onto the imaginary axis. We only see what is 'real.'"

This past year, I have begun to embrace the practices of the Universal Healing Tao as passed down by Master Mantak Chia of Thailand. One of his long-standing students is a certified instructor here in the Twin Cities, and she has become my mentor. The premise here, (and it might be interesting to get your feedback on this), is as follows: Several of the major organs of the body - heart, lungs, liver, kidneys, spleen, and pancreas, are the carriers/sources of different emotions, each having a positive and negative aspect. For example, the positive attribute of the liver is kindness, whereas the negative attribute is anger. In addition, each of the organs is associated with a different color, an element (the five elements of the Tao being fire, metal, wood, water, and earth), as well as a sound. The liver is associated with the color green, the element of wood, and the sound "shhh".

The purpose of all of this is: When one relaxes back into oneself, he/she begins by gathering a golden ball of smiling energy behind the mask of his/her face. With practice and focus, it becomes almost as if one is 'leaving' the body (i.e. I begin to feel weightless), as all focus and concentration is set upon this ball of energy. The energy felt behind the mask of the face can be quite profound (it almost feels like a 'throbbing' sensation, in a positive sense of the word). This golden ball of smiling energy is then sent down to the organs, one at a time beginning with the heart. It's quite intriguing how, with focus, one can 'feel' the movement of this energy. With the heart, one breathes in love, and breathes out hatred and cruelty (with the exhale, a sound is made to vibrate the organ to add extra 'oomph'. The sound associated with the heart is "haaa"). All the while, one must smile to their organ and to the emotions associated with that organ. In my case, it's just a slight raising of the corner of the mouth, as a big smile seems almost forced.

According to the Tao, all of these Elements work in a cycle. Fire burns and creates Earth, Earth compresses and produces Metal, Metal cools and condenses Water, Water flows and nourishes Wood, Wood grows and fuels Fire. That cycle can also become destructive: Fire burns and melts Metal, Metal is sharpened and cuts Wood, wood grows roots and depletes Earth, Earth is built and dams Water, Water flows and douses Fire.

Here is a link to a diagram of what this cycle looks like:

http://taoyoga.co.uk/wp-content/uploads ... -Cycle.jpg (I wonder what you happen to think of the concept of certain organs being the storage areas of certain positive and negative emotions). Ultimately, the cycle goes beyond this, as certain positive and negative emotions cross indirectly to other areas, affecting the organs in different ways. Within this cyclical cycle, these patterns assume the geometric form of a Pentagram (I wonder if this relates at all to the Pythagorean concept of the Pentagram and the hidden patterns inherent within this form, taking shape in nature and the cosmos).

The entire exercise lasts, oh, 30-45 minutes (for me at least), and ends with one opening the top of one's head and connecting to a spiraling galaxy (er, solar system) far away, and allowing a reign of stars to wash through the body and release any remnants of stuck Chi, which leaves through the fingertips and the tips of the toes. It reminds me a bit of what the Himalayan yogis speak of when they say that at the end of life, the transference of consciousness happens by one releasing the energy through the crown of the head.

Mantak Chia's work grasped the attention of Harvard University, and they conducted studies on him, attaching some apparatus or another to his head. What they found is that he has the ability to actually control his heart rate (speed up, slow down) at will; amongst other things (we just seem to love plugging people into things. Something about all of this technology just seems so, how did Obi Wan put it, "uncivilized").

All of this is to say: Human beings are capable of so much more than we give ourselves credit for. Given time and the proper environment, (safe, as opposed to the abilities of someone such as Duncan Cameron being used to decipher secrets never meant to be shared with the rest of the world), would we as a species not one day be able to shift our consciousness in a manner similar to that of the neanderthals? Perhaps this might explain what some insiders have talked about when they speak of 'astral projection' being used to 'remote view'. My best friend was once warned about performing such a practice, as someone mentioned to her that the so-called Silver Chord can be broken and your life force 'grabbed' by some inter-dimensional entity. And if this happens, you will never be the same, as part of you becomes lost forever.

I do remember you having once written that when you meditate, you "do your own thing", and to a certain extant, I have taken the practices of the UHT and adapted them in my own way, i.e. I am not following it quite by the book, and that's ok by me, because I trust my feelings, and I know what feels right.

"The impression I get from the LMs is basically, 'humanity... we can only live without it.'"

"I get a lot of inquiries about "how do I contact the LMs?" The answer is--YOU don't. They will contact you, if the necessity arises. And it only arises when mutual cooperation will provide a two-fold benefit, where both you and they will grow from it. That is the harmony of rapport."

You didn't even need to say it; I had assumed that many people would be writing to you asking such a question. Well before I ever came across your writings (acknowledging that "all of the creatures running around Hogwarts are real"), I did wonder to myself, "What might happen were I to encounter, oh, say, one of the Fae? What could I possibly have to offer them?" (apart from wanting to be swept away by some lovely Huldra. But heed the warnings: "Be careful what you wish for"). Over the years, I have heard far too many stories of their existence to write it off as mere myth. If what I experienced one afternoon in the Faerie Store on Newbury Street in Boston was the real deal, and if the shop keeper was being sincere, then I do believe that faeries may have been just on the other side of the wall. It was quite a strange little experience: She and I were browsing through the shop, with one other woman present in the store. The shop keeper was standing at the front counter. The woman crossed the aisle and left the store. I saw the shop keeper look up directly at my friend. He gazed at her intently for a few moments and then made the statement, "The faeries tell me that you have a good aura." How in the world do you respond to such a thing? She stated, "Um, oh, yeah?" A pause. Then she asked, "Where…where are they?" To which he replied, "In the back room" (points into back room). They (live/visit within?) the back room. They wanted me to tell you that you have a good energy about you." Out of his mind, trying cleverly to get us to buy something, or being sincere?

Then of course, you spoke of the abilities of these and other creatures and how, when a human comes into contact with something quite beyond the scope of their understanding, and when the internal psychic communication begins, the walls of safety come crashing down. Do I even pretend to be ready for such an experience? I can only imagine the flood of suppressed pain from the past that would come welling forward under such circumstances. Hell, I can't even listen to certain songs without walls dissipating and tears trickling down from the pain of a broken home and transformed love. The question is: Might I be able to ease into it in such a way that I would not allow such emotions to overwhelm and shatter my psyche? Might I be able to continue along this current road to internal and external forgiveness, coming to terms with/opening up all of these locked chests in my mind, one by one, to the point at which I would consider myself ready should the test come? Would I genuinely have something to offer, or is such a thing not meant for this particular lifetime?

One particular post by Bruce got me wondering. He stated, "Most of the LMs packed up and left." I sincerely hope that this isn't true (according to a previous statement you had made a few years back, a Phase Cutter was used to destroy certain DUMBs; the indication of course being two-fold: One, our meddling will only be tolerated up to a certain point, and Two, we are far from being alone on this planet). As I stated above, there is tremendous good happening right now, and I hope that others see and feel this. This beautiful planet belongs to all of us, after all. The LMs can pack up and seek life elsewhere, maybe on a planet similar to our own (Ganymede?), without humanity present to mess with the natural workings of things. However, I would think that they have a stake in this, as well. I mean, if the DUMB projects continue (and by the by, that's a rather appropriate name for them. Fits right in there with your definition of the 'Moron'), then we are eventually going to (if we haven't already) start digging a little too greedily and too deep; and then there will be some big problems. Then again, with Agenda 21 and the Wild Lands projects, we've got a long-term plan to herd people into overcrowded, noisy cities of the future, complete with (flying cars?) and lots of public transit options (within the confines of the city walls) and thus limiting our ability to travel into remote places. Add to that the 2045 Initiative and the plans to create human robotic avatars, and you've got quite a mechanized future paradigm. It is for this reason why the Intentional Community movement is so vastly important, i.e. reestablishing our relationship to Earth and living in balance with ourselves, with each other, and with the planet. I do like Bruce's vision of a community in which those who so choose to live in quiet can still remain a part of the greater community itself. To a large extent, I feel the same way: I could be a part of such a community, but I tend to be a rather solitary person by nature, and require quiet spaces. What with the nature of my current research, I already fail to fit in with 99% of people anyhow; and that's become a daily challenge. I don't need 100 friends; but the company of a few trusted comrades is most welcome indeed.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:"Excuse me, do you know where we can find the nuclear wessels?"

Some Star Trek trivia... that scene with Alameda and the nuclear wessels was an accident! The woman was just someone walking by on the street, while the cameras were rolling. But it came out so perfect, that they had to send people chasing her down on the street to get her to sign a release to use it in the film.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:I think that I'm wondering the same thing about the 21st century.

As I watch the chemtrails expanding across the sky out the window, I wonder if we DID make it to the 21st century in one piece.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:Hahaha! So, what you're saying is that this particular group of neanderthals are having fun at this guy's expense, i.e. leaving single footprints in the snow, taking a bite out of an apple and leaving a 'spectral trail' as it flies through the air, placing 'gifts' of wrapped twigs in his bag, etc, as if to say, "We're a lot more intelligent than you're giving us credit for, Mike; and we know all about you and your kind." Still, the simple fact that they are choosing to share this with this gentleman is intriguing.

I was kidding a bit about the translation, but the one thing that wasn't kidding about was "(laughter)." They have a different vocal tract than we do, and when they laugh, that is extremely close to the way it sounds--even if it was faked, somebody must have heard it.

Just consider for a moment that these Neanderthals have evolved just about as far as we have, intellectually and spiritually, but never embraced that SM technology, preferring to live in harmony with the planet. As peaceful explorers, they are out to enjoy their life experience and learn what they can. They are NOT human, and do not act like humans. Most of the LM species (and I lump the Neanderthals in with the LMs, despite the size difference) are quite playful, like dolphins and otters. They don't have this artificial slavery that we live in that forces constant fear and stress, so they are free to express themselves and have fun with their life experience. I realize this is a concept quite foreign to human behavior, outside of young kids. But in "their" environment, that is what they are like--they are not ANYTHING like human "civilization" (and I use that term loosely) on which we base all "norms."

I'd be willing to bet that these big apes are just monkeying around with the "silly humans" that take life too seriously, living life through their gadgets and electric toys. And I'd bet if those folks realized it and just broke out laughing with the Sasquatch at these pranks and their own gullibility, they would have probably had a very friendly, face-to-face encounter--because fear would have changed to fun. And believe me, that would have really changed Mikey's view on life. It happens all the times with LMs and young children, whom are running around the yard playing with their invisible friends, having a great time.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:Now I wonder: Can contact be made at some point with people who actually have something to offer besides a few apples beside a 'giving tree'? I mean, sharing food is nice enough, but I think that we can do better.

Just a suggestion: try offering the best of yourself, and see what happens.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:It's only now that I realize the idiocy of my previous comment regarding the neanderthals "falling" somewhere between ourselves and the other 'accepted' creatures of the planet. As if to say that Homo Sapiens Sapiens are somehow at the top of some arbitrary pyramid. It truly does take some reprogramming to get out of that mindset. Oftentimes, it takes someone wiser than oneself to see outside the scope of the 'possibilities/limitations' that we set for ourselves when we forget to pick up the latest pair of lenses from Rowdy Roddy Piper

The way Nature sees it, is that homo sapiens are at the top of the food pyramid simply because they are the best killers on the planet. They certainly didn't get in that position by good deeds and merit! Maybe we should turn that pyramid upside-down.

You do realize that the Hoffman Lens is the pre-Matrix version of the red pill, right? They let you see the subliminals behind the message.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:In simplest terms, what exactly is happening here? How is our tapping into the electromagnetic spectrum having an ill-effect on the planet? What are we doing to punish nature, and how is it affecting our bodies down to the cellular level?

Too large a question to answer in a couple of paragraphs, but I may ask you, "why are over 10,000 species a year going extinct?"

AnAncientAwakening wrote:As Bruce put it, the only way out of this is through lots of "shit shoveling". What we do upon the bare ground beneath the shit is one of the things that will matter going forward, I believe.

May have misquoted that, as Bruce doesn't use vulgarities (unless he was referring to the acronym "shit," meaning "Store High In Transit," which is the origin of the word). But that is basically the situation humanity is in.

If you examine the way people are programmed through education and social interaction, that programming will constantly REPEAT the same cycle of destruction, because nobody is changing it--only enforcing it. So there won't be any human social group saviors, regardless of what David promotes--just new people in charge of the same, old structure.

This is what the Antiquatis Monastery concept (the Sanctuary Project) concerns. Since we know that all the programming is backwards, designed to enslave the human race through fear and isolation, what if a group of people got together to consciously rewrite that programming the other way around--what happens? My conclusion is the evolution of consciousness, propelling man away from slavery to independence and informed choices, based on natural consequences--with respect for those consequences. And we have no idea of where that will lead, because basically it has never actually been done before, since the tools to do it (like Internet and the enormous commercial resources cheaply available these days) have not existed before. But I would bet it leads directly to homo sapiens ethicus, the Tomorrow People--peaceful explorers that become a part of the playful, evolving Universe.

(Taking a break for dinner--very long post!)

deepfsh wrote:

AnAncientAwakening wrote:The first question that always rears its head when the topic of the hominoids is breached is: "Where are the bodies?" I suppose that this would be a legitimate question.

Boyd Bushman, a former senior engineer at Lockheed Martin, gave an interview before he died this August, in which he talked about UFOs and ETs. He showed photos of a being similar to the one found in Russia and featured in the documentary Sirius. He was told that these beings communicate telepathically with humans, by us hearing our own voices in the head. Although I think he said where they come from, Daniel once commented that they live in inner Earth. I recommend watching the entire 30-min video. [1][2][3]

Cheers for the link, that's an impressive collection of photos. Here's another article on Bushman from Phantoms & Monsters which is good and includes his polygraph results trancsript:

http://www.phantomsandmonsters.com/2014 ... shman.html

Lon's website and emails are always a quality source of LM related material and he has a page on the Bigfoot Paradox:

http://www.phantomsandmonsters.com/p/ne ... ce-of.html

Lozion wrote:Interesting how the Wookies are the traditional enemies of SM like Trandoshans...

Great spot man! Let's have some fun with this and replace the words:

The Sasquatch, whose name for themselves translated to the People of the Trees, were a species of tall, hairy humanoids that were inhabitants of the planet Tiamat. One of the most noteworthy members of the species was Harry, George Henderson's best friend and co-star, who played a vital role in the Galactic Civil War and afterwards. A race of arboreal mammals, the Sasquatch live in treehouses nestled in the canopy of the towering redwood trees. Despite their fearsome appearance, they are usually gentle, although they are prone to devastating fits of rage when provoked.

A race of towering, hairy bipeds, the Sasquatch are one of the most recognizable species in the solar system. They are renowned for their great strength, their intelligence, their loyalty and their short temper.[16] Due to their appearance, they are sometimes referred to as "Bigfoot."

Apart from the tree houses that's pretty much spot on! They do like to climb trees and the youngsters in particular do like to hide higher up and throw stones. The common misconception is that they live higher up in the mountains they are more likely to be in the forest, or even in your backyard...

Trandoshans, or T'doshok in Dosh, were large, bipedal reptilian humanoids. The Trandoshans were a warlike species who allied early with the Empire, taking Wookiees as slaves.

Lizards vs Monkeys is a common theme...

AnAncientAwakening wrote:The audio footage posted under the account of Sasquatch Ontario is fascinating. The vocalizations had me spellbound. I couldn't stop listening. Daniel - in your opinion, would that be the real deal? Is that what their language sounds like (at least, those on the North American continent, the Sasquatch)? If so, imagine being there to experience that. In all honesty, I can see how it would take enormous heaps of patience, as it seems that these creatures are attempting to communicate something to this gentleman, but what is it exactly that they are saying? Of course, all of this is a moot point if this is yet another joker playing people for the fool in Internet land. I've seen first-hand what can be done in a recording studio with sound manipulation. Quite simple actually to bend, stretch, and compress the human voice.

...

If that is true, then what is with all of the folks continuing to claim that they are seeing them? Lloyd Pye made mention of them being seen in every state in the U.S. If they have for the most part gone underground, then why all of the sightings? Sure, at this point, it's impossible to tell which are the real deal and which are merely hoaxes (which I would assume would be most) and/or misindentifications, but there are still many who make claims. Case in point: A few years back, I was living in the tiny Northern California town of Willits, working in a small independent grocery Cooperative. One day, one of my co-workers broached the subject of bigfoot (quite unprovoked by me, I might add). This is what she said: "I saw one when I was living further north. I walked out very early one morning and there it was, standing beside my trash cans. It was about the size of a ten year old boy, and was covered in black fur. When it saw me, it ran off." Another co worker chimed in: "My friend saw the same thing. There's some weird stuff up there in those woods." These were simple folks in a tiny town of 3,500 people, mind you, and I didn't get the feeling that they were making this up. They seemed nothing but sincere and quite creeped out; and were happy to end the conversation there.

Yeah the audio is fascinating! The people I mentioned above and links are the ones i've found who are actually trying to communicate with our big hairy friends and respect them for who they are, with many recognizing their advanced hominid status having witnessed incredible feats of strength, speed and more.

The video with the two people trapped in their car on the freeway in the middle of nowhere is about 15 minutes long and spooky but very enjoyable, as are the very good quality Sasquatch Ontario ones. You can easily relate to their confusion when their brain is hearing something they KNOW is not anything they have heard before yet they keep trying to rationalize it until it probably sinks in later for them, if not then quite quickly due to listening to so many of them have a big chat.

It's like my LM encounter, my brain kept saying "leaves?? It's leaves!? Is it leaves?? It's not leaves... i think... I saw something, it moved fast, i've followed it to the fence, it's gone. About 8 seconds have elapsed and where i'm looking down a hill I can see very far and no evidence of any whirlwind anywhere... Okaaaay, gonna let all that sink in for a while!" And just think these guys are going out there every week and more, experiencing encounters like this and then some! Pioneers at the forefront of an evolving humanity that needs to show that we can respect nature and LM's, get back in harmony with nature while walking the path to become peaceful explorers of the universe.... These guys are the field researchers in our Hogwarts!

daniel wrote:A rough translation...

Yeah, wanna do lunch?
No? You'll be the main course!
(chuckle)
Mike, Mike? Mike?
(laughter)
I'm outta here.

Haha that's not far off one of the videos! When they replay some you can almost make out some words and friendly banter between them.

daniel wrote:The Neanderthals and LMs are strongly connected, and by shifting their consciousness between body and soul, can appear or disappear at will. In a mathematical sense, it is much like moving off the real axis on the Argand diagram, onto the imaginary axis. We only see what is "real."

A 90 degrees shift, exit stage left! Some reports sound more like a scene from Predator though with shimmering ripples of light bending, probably similar to what I saw but bigger. I imagine that if you were familiar with the film but not a Bigfoot believer and saw that you'd be well freaked out.

AnAncientAwakening wrote:Hahaha! So, what you're saying is that this particular group of neanderthals are having fun at this guy's expense, i.e. leaving single footprints in the snow, taking a bite out of an apple and leaving a 'spectral trail' as it flies through the air, placing 'gifts' of wrapped twigs in his bag, etc, as if to say, "We're a lot more intelligent than you're giving us credit for, Mike; and we know all about you and your kind." Still, the simple fact that they are choosing to share this with this gentleman is intriguing. Now I wonder: Can contact be made at some point with people who actually have something to offer besides a few apples beside a 'giving tree'? I mean, sharing food is nice enough, but I think that we can do better.

There is a lot of gift exchange happens between us especially in remote tribes and more so years ago. They like to leave stick figure art and tribes have stories of exchanging cooking pots and other useful items with them. The researchers I mention are making more varying atempts to communicate but I agree we can do better and maybe more with knowledge of RS and a history of Tiamat on our side hopefully we can do the same at some point like when I go up Ben Macdhui.

http://www.biggreyman.co.uk/legend.html

Check out Kewaunee Lapseritis, he communicates with the Sasquatch regularly and interacts with them in dreams (another interesting connection mentioned by a few researchers), here's another link for his website to go with the videos above. I'm still not 100% on whether he's genuine but lots of what he says fits with what i've learned here:

http://sasquatchpeople.com/

AnAncientAwakening wrote:Rowdy Roddy Piper

"He earned the nickname "Rowdy" by displaying his trademark "Scottish" rage, spontaneity and quick wit."

AnAncientAwakening wrote:http://taoyoga.co.uk/wp-content/uploads ... -Cycle.jpg

Cheers for the link, looking forward to reading up on it and giving it a shot!

AnAncientAwakening wrote:...and you've got quite a mechanized future paradigm. It is for this reason why the Intentional Community movement is so vastly important, i.e. reestablishing our relationship to Earth and living in balance with ourselves, with each other, and with the planet. I do like Bruce's vision of a community in which those who so choose to live in quiet can still remain a part of the greater community itself. To a large extent, I feel the same way: I could be a part of such a community, but I tend to be a rather solitary person by nature, and require quiet spaces. What with the nature of my current research, I already fail to fit in with 99% of people anyhow; and that's become a daily challenge. I don't need 100 friends; but the company of a few trusted comrades is most welcome indeed.

Welcome to the club, pretty much sums it all up for me!

daniel wrote:As I watch the chemtrails expanding across the sky out the window, I wonder if we DID make it to the 21st century in one piece.

Oh we made it, but it's that horrible sci-fi-horror future we thought was a cartoon...

http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2009/10 ... their.html
So the leaders of men conceived of their most desperate strategy yet
Posted by Jim at Sunday, October 18, 2009

These geo-engineering “solutions” usually make my blood run cold. But the sulfate injection scheme is so badly conceived that I’m always reminded of the rather horrifying sequence in Animatrix, “The Second Renaissance Part II,” in which humanity’s plan to save the world from the robot apocalypse is to cripple the robots’ solar power by cutting total solar irradiance to zero.

Thus did Zero One's troops advance outward in every direction. And one after another, mankind surrendered its territories.

So the leaders of men conceived of their most desperate strategy yet. A final solution: The destruction of the sky.

daniel wrote:This is what the Antiquatis Monastery concept (the Sanctuary Project) concerns. Since we know that all the programming is backwards, designed to enslave the human race through fear and isolation, what if a group of people got together to consciously rewrite that programming the other way around--what happens? My conclusion is the evolution of consciousness, propelling man away from slavery to independence and informed choices, based on natural consequences--with respect for those consequences. And we have no idea of where that will lead, because basically it has never actually been done before, since the tools to do it (like Internet and the enormous commercial resources cheaply available these days) have not existed before. But I would bet it leads directly to homo sapiens ethicus, the Tomorrow People--peaceful explorers that become a part of the playful, evolving Universe.

Sounds good, count me in!

“All journeys have secret destinations of which the traveler is unaware.” ~ Martin Buber

“Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail” ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

“If you come to a fork in the road, take it.” ~ Yogi Berra

“Every exit is an entry somewhere else.” ~ Tom Stoppard

“The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes.” ~ Marcel Proust

“The best journeys in life are those that answer questions you never thought to ask.” ~ Rich Ridgeway

“Adventure is not outside man; it is within.” ~ George Eliot