I think Miles' work gets into this pretty well.After the departure of the gods (circa 1525 CE), man was in total control, not much changing since then.
(I am speaking of his historical work here...related to blood lines; not his scientific work.)
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I think Miles' work gets into this pretty well.After the departure of the gods (circa 1525 CE), man was in total control, not much changing since then.
Don't know how to post youtube links here. I would say Leuren Moret can supply some input in this area (though, of course, not all aspects of it). For those of you with a Steiner back ground; a lot of this can cross related to the cycles of the Yugas as well. (Perhaps calling for a response from Gopi?) Anyway....I guess I would recommend the vid from 3-22-2016; as perhaps related to this subject.Now there are other in consistencies, as we are told that "dinosaurs ruled the world," yet they have only found about 3000 skeletal remains--almost half are pteranodons. They give lots of reasons for this small number, such as the conditions to preserve 65 million years, but when you correct the historical time scale to a few thousand years... well... we should be up to our noses in dinosaur bones. And there are fossils of man alongside dinosaur tracks here in the US... and it has now been proven that fossils only take a few days to form under the right conditions--not centuries. So the fossil record is now invalid.
So if you decide to research this, please let me know what you find, as it is an interest of mine.
I thought it was logical to start with the Knights Templar and looked into the history and trials of the Knights Templar which took me from their origins in c. 1120 B.C. to their trials and eventual "destruction" from 1307 B.C. to 1314 B.C.:daniel wrote:From what I've been able to piece together, the SMs and LMs had a long-running war (centuries long) that, for the most part, came to an end during that 14th century expansion event--with the LMs "winning." Part of the treaty was that the Annuna were to leave their Ark (the moon) in orbit, to keep life viable here. It took them a couple of centuries to get alternate transportation off this rock, with the final departure of the gods occurring in the early 1500s.
Due to the conflict, a lot of the slaves in the world were left to the human controllers, whom formalized their bureaucracy in 1110 CE. When the gods lost the war, they lost their actual power given by them--but didn't bother to tell any of the slaves, instead tricking them into believing they still had it (kind of like when Congress declared income tax to be illegal, so the IRS made it "voluntary" and didn't tell anyone, here in the USA).
I haven't yet done the correlation work between the attempt to eliminate the Knights Templar and the expansion event, which both occurred in the 14th century, so there might be a correlation there. (Friday, October 13, 1307.) But that was a definite shift in the power structure of this world.
After the departure of the gods (circa 1525 CE), man was in total control, not much changing since then.
So only a little reinforcement at the start and end that this is "not historical fact"!Start:
Some historians and authors have tried to draw a link from Freemasonry and its many branches to the Templars. Degrees in the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite such as the Knight of Saint Andrew, the Knight of Rose-Croix, and the 32nd Degree in Consistory make reference to a "Masonic Knights Templar" connection, but this is usually dismissed as being ceremonial and not historical fact....
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...Since the 1980s, there has been a growing body of publications in both popular fiction and pseudohistory which construct a continuity between the historical presence of the Knights Templar in Scotland with the emergence of Masonic Scottish Knights Templar in the early modern period....
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...The contemporary Royal Order of Scotland makes use of a similar foundation myth, which is no more intended to be taken as historical fact than any other piece of masonic allegory.[46]
That last quote says it all.Early modern history
In the seventeenth century, interest in Templarism became political after the execution of Charles I, with the idea that Stuart partisans invented a Templar degree, as the king's death was to be avenged, as was the violent death in 1314 of Jacques de Molay, last Grand Master of the Templars. The story told by Dom Calmet was that Viscount Dundee was supposed to have been an early Templar Grand Master and to have fallen at Killiecrankie wearing the Grand Cross of the Order. The Duke of Mar is then said to have held office, after which time the Templar Order was apparently inactive until its revival by Charles Edward Stuart in 1745. An original letter of the 3rd Duke of Perth to Earl of Airlie Lord Ogilvy shortly after the Jacobite victory at Prestonpans, described a secret ceremony at Holyrood in which the prince was elected Grand Master of the ancient chivalry of the Temple of Jerusalem on Tuesday 24 September 1745.[1][2][3]
Templarism experienced a revival of interest in the eighteenth century through Freemasonry with a Scottish influence. The first record of this is in Ramsay's Oration in Paris in 1737. Andrew Michael Ramsay was tutor to the Young Pretender, Prince Charles Edward Stuart. He claimed that Freemasonry had begun among crusader knights and that they had formed themselves into Lodges of St John. The next development was with Karl Gotthelf, Baron Von Hund, and Alten-Grotkau, who had apparently been introduced to the concept by the Jacobite Lord Kilmarnock, and received into a Templar Chapter by a mysterious "Knight of the Red Feather".[4] Baron von Hund established a new Masonic rite called the "Strict Templar Observance". The "Knight of the Red Feather" has been identified subsequently as Alexander Seton better known as Alexander Montgomerie, 10th Earl of Eglinton, a prominent Freemason in the Jacobite movement.[5][1]
Since the mid nineteenth century myths, legends and anecdotes connecting the Templars to the Battle of Bannockburn have been created. Degrees in Freemasonry, such as the Royal Order of Scotland, allude to the story of Rosslyn and the Scottish Knights Templar.[6] This theme was repeated in the pseudohistory book The Temple and The Lodge by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, first published in 1989. On the subject of a possible Bruce connection, Masonic Historian D Murray Lyon wrote "The fraternity of Kilwinning never at any period practiced or acknowledged other than the Craft degrees; neither does there exist any tradition worthy of the name, local or national, nor has any authentic document yet been discovered that can in the remotest degree be held to identify Robert Bruce with the holding of Masonic Courts, or the institution of a secret society at Kilwinning."[7]
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Main articles: Knights Templar (Freemasonry) and Freemasonry in Scotland
The modern revival of Templarism in Scotland starts with Alexander Deuchar. The records of one of Scottish Freemasonry's most prestigious lodges, the St Mary's Chapel Lodge of Edinburgh, describe the visit of a "...deputation from the Grand Assembly of the High Knights Templar in Edinburgh… headed by their most worshipful Grand Master, Alexander Deuchar...the first time for some hundred years that any Lodge of Freemasonry had been visited by an assembly of Knights Templar, headed by their Grand Master." This implies that there was an Order in existence 100 years earlier. In 1811 with a Charter from the Templar Grand Master in England, the Duke of Kent, Alexander Deuchar established the Grand Conclave of Knights of the Holy Temple and Sepulchre, and of St. John of Jerusalem. Controversially in 1836 "...it was proposed that non-Masons be admitted to the Order, at the same time the ritual was adapted in order to allow this to happen.,,[8][9] .[10] Previously only Royal Arch Masons in Good Standing were allowed to join. Only the Royal Grand Conclave was allowed to admit non-Masons and these men were never members of any Encampments, only of Grand Conclave." The modern non Masonic Order Militi Templi Scotia claims descent from Alexander Deuchar who was a Freemason.
The Masonic Movement is generally referred to as the Knights Templar, but the full Style and Title of this body is "The United Religious, Military, and Masonic Orders of the Temple, and of St.John of Jerusalem, Palestine, Rhodes, and Malta".
I used to live near Maryculter House Hotel at Templar Park next to the River Dee in Aberdeenshire and as you can see from the many place names above, the Templars definitely settled down in Scotland, contrary to the forced official consensus that the order ceased around then.In 1128 the cousin of St Bernard of Clairvaux, Hugues de Payens, met King David I in Scotland.[1] The Order established a seat at Balantrodoch, now Temple, Midlothian on the South Esk (River Esk, Lothian). In 1189 Alan FitzWalter, the 2nd Lord High Steward of Scotland was a benefactor of the Order.
In about the year 1187, William the Lion granted part of the Culter lands on the south bank of the River Dee, Aberdeenshire, to the Knights Templar and between 1221 and 1236 Walter Bisset of Aboyne founded a Preceptory for the Knights Templar. In 1287 and 1288 they built a Chapel dedicated to Mary the Mother of Christ, known as St Mary's Chapel and in November 1309, the name of a William Middleton of the "Tempill House of Culter" was recorded.[2][3][4]
It has been claimed that in 1309 during the trial of the Templars in Scotland[5] Bishop Lamberton of St Andrews, Guardian of Scotland 1299–1301 gave the Templars his protection, although there is no evidence to support this claim.[6][7][8][9] It should also be recorded that John of Fordun's Chronicle of the Scottish Nation,[10] a major Scottish mediaeval source makes no mention at all of the Templars.
The Knights Templar had considerable possessions in the County of Nairn, or Moray, in 1296. The following extract is taken from The History of Nairn:
"...There is a writ extant granted in their [the Knights Templar] favour at Berwick, addressed to the Sheriff of Invernairn to put them in possession of their lands, they having made submission to Edward I. This was no doubt done. From the deed of conveyance of the Temple lands in the North from Lord Torphichen, the last Master of the Order, it appears that the following were the lands held here. Those two roods of arable land lying within the territory of the Burgh of Nairn, in that part thereof called [blank] possessed by John Rose, burgess of Nairn, and his sub-tenants; those two roods of arable temple land and house lying within the said territory of Nairn, possessed by Hew Rose of Kilravock and his sub-tenants; all and haill those our temple lands called the lands of Pitfundie lying in the said Sheriffdom of Nairn, betwixt the strype that conies from the lands of Brodie on the east, the fludder or myre upon the south side of the common muir called the Hardmuir Map on the south side, the lands of Penick Map and wood of Lochloy Map on the west, and the Euchcarse of Culbyn on the north, for the most part possessed by the lairds of Brodie, and their sub-tenants."
They also had land designated in old charters as Temple Land, Temple Cruik, Temple Bank, and Bogschand. which lay partly in the vicinity of the town of Ardersier, between Connage, Flemington and the sea. A charter granted at Nairn refers to the locus trialis at Ardersier, doubtless an ancient place of trial by "wager of battle". The Temple lands of Ardersier were held by Davidsons and Mackays as portioners. They were acquired by Cawdor in 1626. The Temple lands at Brodie and elsewhere appear to have been disposed of about the same time, as in a Brodie, charter of date 1626 the lands of Pitfundie are included in the Brodie estate. The Templars were a religious and military order of Knights who escorted pilgrims to Jerusalem at a time when such pilgrimages were attended by dangers from robbers. They wore a white robe with a red Maltese cross on the breast, and at first were all of noble birth, The Knights of St. John of Jerusalem had lands in Nairnshire. It is impossible now to identify them. When the Knights Templar were suppressed by Edward II their property was given to the Knights of St. John.[11][12]
In 1312, by order of a Papal Bull, Vox in Excelso, all assets of the Order of the Temple were given to Knights Hospitaller or Order of St. John except for Spain where they were succeeded by the Order of Montesa the Order of Calatrava, from which its first recruits were drawn, and Portugal where they became the Order of Christ and it has been claimed that in Scotland the Order combined with the Hospitallers and continued as The Order of St John and the Temple until the Reformation, although there is no evidence to that effect. When Sir James Sandilands, Preceptor of the Order converted to Protestantism in 1553, the Order is thought to have ceased.[13]
You can also enjoy a laugh at the expense of the current Scottish Knights Templar, who of course in no way are related to the ancient order... except...On October 13 (the unlucky Friday the 13th), 1307, the Knights Templar in France were simultaneously arrested by agents of Philip the Fair, later to be tortured into admitting heresy in the Order. The dominant view is that Philip, who seized the treasury and broke up the monastic banking system, was jealous of the Templars' wealth and power, and sought to control it. These events, and the Templars' original banking of assets for suddenly mobile depositors, were two of many shifts towards a system of military fiat to back European money, removing this power from Church orders.
Seeing the fate of the Templars, the Hospitallers of St John of Jerusalem and of Rhodes and of Malta were also convinced to give up banking at this time. Much of the Templar property outside of France was transferred by the Pope to the Knights Hospitaller, and many surviving Templars were also accepted into the Hospitallers. Many kings and nobles, however, still supported the Knights at that time, and only dissolved the order in their fiefs when so commanded by Pope Clement V. Robert the Bruce, the King of Scotland, had already been excommunicated for other reasons, and was therefore not disposed to pay heed to Papal commands, and it was he who invited the order to seek overall asylum in Scotland.
The Scottish Order of the Knights Templar was one of Royal appointment, an Honour presented to select individuals by the Scottish Royal Court. Only limited families were accepted into the Order and at the head of the organization were the heads of three families, seen to be of senior representation of the original Scottish Knights. These three families were: the House of Stewart; The House of Sinclair; and The House of Seton; the which families were also recognized as representatives of the Carolingian bloodline.
Lord Seton's Tomb at Seton Collegiate Church.As such, the Scottish Knights Templar assert that not only did the Seton's serve Scotland's cause, but also they did so as members of the Order. The family had already been on several crusades, and were noted as members of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem in Edinburgh. Alexander Seton, of the Governor of Berwick fame, ended his years at the Hospital in Edinburgh, and it had been Christopher Seton in 1306 who was the loyal adherent of King Robert Bruce and saved Bruce's life at the Battle of Methven, while one of his sons, Alexander, played not only a prominent role at Bannockburn, but was one of the signatories to the Declaration of Arbroath in 1320.
(Christopher Seton, in common with succeeding generations of his family, was to pay dearly for his unstinting devotion to the cause of Scotland. Captured after Methven, he was executed in Dumfries - hung, beheaded, and his body cut into quarters).
In later years, the Scottish Knights Templar formed a Regiment for foreign service, into what became known as the Scots Guard, or "le Garde Ecossais en France". One of the families which were prominent in this Scots Guard, were the Seton family. The Scots Guard were the Guard of the French kings and fought with honour for that country in the wars across Europe and against England. “It contained within its ranks the great names of Scotland, such as the Setons, the Montgomeries, the Hays, the Hamiltons, the Sinclairs, the Douglases, and the Stuarts and was subsequently a supporter of the Stuart cause."
In recognition of the Seton family's contribution to Scotland's cause and their close links to the Order, the Scottish Knights Templar of today hold an annual service of dedication in the Seton Collegiate Church. The Order says: “The Scottish Knights Templar have held several services in Seton Collegiate Church to commemorate the lives of the Seton family who maintained, above all else, unswerving loyalty to the Crown of Scotland; 'One God, one nation, one king, one loyalty' was the motto carved in stone in gilded letters over the portals of the ancient palace that Seton Church once served as a chapel".
Satisfied with a little bit of historical gap-filling, I still couldn't see any connection to the expansion event but there is a clue to the shift in power suggested by daniel, from the Seton Knights text above:The Templar treasure is the subject of Myths, legends and half truths;
The treasure of the Templars is not in doubt, it existed as a result of creating a Check writing system and the commissions received, enough to build a fleet of ships and maintain dozens of castles and constructions. The Check writing system was actually the first Central bank in Europe.
After the destruction of the Knights Templar structure, many fled to Scotland, England, and locations throughout Europe including what is today Switzerland. Their Shipping fleet and treasure was never seen again, although the ships were probably hired out to trading companies.
What is interesting is the rise of the modern banking system in the next years after their demise....The bank of England was created by William Patterson, a Scotsman, but is generally accepted as a front for private concerns. William went on to become the sheriff of "the City of London", not to be confused with London itself. The city of London is a private corporation, exists on 677 square acres and is subject to its own laws and rule. As it has for several hundred years, the City of London directs British economic policies to this day.
Along with the rise of the Bank of England came the Medici, Hapsburg, Warburg, Fugger's, Rothschild's,etc, banking families.We can find several ties that stretch back to Jesuits, Templar treasures and myths. it is very difficult to ascertain fact from fiction during these times. What they all share in common are Ties to Gold and mining industries, Central bank planning, and loaning to governments and royalty at high interest most often to fund wars. Collateral is often state owned lands, mines, and authority to manage tax receipts.
Today the bank of England, the Rothschild and Warburg Banking systems, continue to operate in much the same manner as did the Original Central bank, the system created by the Templar knights.
The US Federal Reserve is very much a result of these various systems; loaning to govts, controlling the interest rates, and placing the taxpayer as collateral for the loan(s). The Federal Reserve is also a Private corporation.
To summarize, the Templar treasure was never lost, it is hidden in plain view used to replicate the same banking system that proved successful for the original Knights Templar; It is the Royal bank of Scotland, the Bank of England, Rothschild banking, UBS bank, and all of their cross connected and interbred offspring. This is one very possible location of the Templar treasure, the modern Banking system.
It appears that for a long time we've been seeing a fight between the Church and the Templars/Masons/Bankers/Royals playing out for centuries, you could say it's Earth's longest running soap opera...On October 13 (the unlucky Friday the 13th), 1307, the Knights Templar in France were simultaneously arrested by agents of Philip the Fair, later to be tortured into admitting heresy in the Order. The dominant view is that Philip, who seized the treasury and broke up the monastic banking system, was jealous of the Templars' wealth and power, and sought to control it. These events, and the Templars' original banking of assets for suddenly mobile depositors, were two of many shifts towards a system of military fiat to back European money, removing this power from Church orders.
More confirmation of what we have learned... A New World (order - a favourite word as seen on the Scottish Templars manifesto), Freemasonry, Israelites, Rosicrucians, America, Atlantis... New Atlantis...Bacon, Dr. Dee and America
...Bacon threw his group's weight behind the English plans to colonize America. He looked back to John Dee, the Renaissance mage who had encourages voyage to America in the belief that a Utopian commonwealth could be established in the New World
Bacon's "New Atlantis"
"New Atlantis" was about Utopia in the New World. It concealed the Secret Doctrine to create a New World and democracy within its Utopianism, and was a Masonic blueprint for America...Bacon suggests that England could become an Israelite England...Rosicrucian Freemasonry may have established itself in America in 1635 when missing works by Bacon were reputedly taken to Jamestown. These may have included the sequel to "New Atlantis" Bacon is thought to have written. This is believed to have included a timetable for fulfilling the Masonic plan for America
It's very interesting to see John Dee's (and subsequently Francis Bacon's) fascination with Atlantis. We can be pretty sure that between their access to esoteric knowledge from their study of alchemy and association with the royals and their macrobe-dealing-magick, that they all knew the true history of events as shown in the daniel papers, that being the LM-SM war, the great bombardment, subsequent expansion of Earth and the true events of our history which have been getting covered up for centuries.Dee has been defamed through the centuries as a necromancer, but it's the opinion of many writers that his angelic-cabalistic- alchemical work, his Philosophers Stone, the"Monad Hieroglyphica"(1564) may have been a cover for covert operations carried on in the name of her majesty. The 007 was the insignia number that Elizabeth was to use for private communiques between her Court and Dee.
Dee signed his letters with two circles symbolising his own two eyes and indicating that he was the secret eyes of the Queen.The two circles are guarded by what may be considered a square root sign or an elongated seven. For Dee, seven was a sacred cabbalistic and lucky number.(Richard Deacon)
When the Spanish Armada loomed over the English Channel it was Dee as the wise sage who suggested to hold the course and be still. He had correctly anticipated that devastating storms would destroy the mighty Spanish Fleet and that it would be best to keep the English ships at bay. Some have suggested that it was Dee himself who conjured up that storm. Whatever it was that allowed England to defeat the Armada, John Dee was having his finest patriotic moment. One can see why some commentators have Dee associated with being the inspiration for the protagonist Prospero (to hope for the future) from The Tempest. Francis Yates in her seminal exploration Majesty and Magic in Shakespeare's Last Plays, comments, "Dare one say that the German Rosicrucian movement reaches a peak of poetic expression in The Tempest, a Rosicrucian manifesto infused with the spirit of Dee, using theatrical parables for esoteric communication?"
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So it's not surprising that Bacon chose to hold back his Rosicrucian utopia The New Atlantis from publication until after his death as it portrayed a future world in which man could co-exist with his fellow man without the divine right of kings and the new tools that the magic of science would one day bring could also be in harmony with nature as well. But it was Dee's colonization dream many years before who referred to the new world as "Atlantis." He would have been proud to have read Bacon's New Atlantis and seen Bacon's sympathetic portrayal of him as the magician Prospero, of The Tempest.
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Peter Dawkins in his book "Francis Bacon Herald of the New Age" would strongly disagree with Yates on Bacon's avoidance of mathematics. He writes, "nothing could be further from the truth: for number is a cypher and geometry a symbol for truth, and Francis Bacon was intensely interested in and a master of cipher and symbol, and of rhythm in language, using them repeatedly throughout all his works in various cryptic ways--for he saw mathematics as a vitally important occult or mystical science, and used it accordingly. Mathematics coupled with analogy and allegory, constitute a principal means to the discovery of what Bacon has enticingly hidden." Dawkins later emphasizes that, "Francis Bacon considered mathematics to be a branch of metaphysics, capable of giving insights into the highest 'Forms' or archetypes--the laws and intelligences of the universe. Consequently, like Dr. John Dee, his early tutor, he was fascinated by mathematical cypher in both its numeric and geometric forms, and with its magical use. Bacon gives both mathematics and analogy which he considers a science and calls "grammatical philosophy," a high place in his Great Instauration; which, when used together help to unlock the doors to that which Bacon has deliberately concealed-- including certain mysteries hidden in the Shakespeare plays. For instance, the two great books published in 1623 were the Shakespeare's Folio Comedies, Histories & Tragedies and Bacon's De Augmentis Scientiarum{the philosophical background and purpose of the Shakespeare plays} two masterpieces published together, since they are as twins, each being a key to unlock hidden treasures in the other-- two relating to the twin faculties of the mind--imagination and reason--and both drawing upon the third faculty, memory." It should be noted that the following year 1624 the cypher book, Cryptomenytices was published and Dawkins points to this as "providing the cipher keys to open the 'crypt' of Rosicrucian wisdom hidden in both the philosophical and the poetical works of art of this great Master."