The complex number re: time and timelines

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The complex number re: time and timelines

Post by 4KAAG » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:48 pm

I guess I'm just lazy, but re-reading Time and Timelines, Daniel said that to grasp the reciprocal nature of s/t and t/s is to understand the the relation between the rational number and the imaginary number. It's been a long time since I've studied math, but I feel I can grasp this concept with a little help.

Can anyone link me to an explanation of the complex number, or describe here how it is related to understanding the relationship between s/t and t/s?

Many thanks.

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Re: The complex number re: time and timelines

Post by daniel » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:31 pm

4KAAG wrote:Can anyone link me to an explanation of the complex number, or describe here how it is related to understanding the relationship between s/t and t/s?
Start here, with bperet's introduction to the RS2 and numbering systems: http://rs2theory.org/books/rs2.html

Easy read, showing how numbering systems evolve and connect to the concepts of yin-yang, space and time.
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Re: The complex number re: time and timelines

Post by twidlar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:03 pm

I'm going to read Peret's intro to RS2, too.

I've read The Case against the Nuclear Atom twice and the 3 volumes of Nothing But Motion twice and I have just read Beyond space And Time. I just read your Geochronology twice. I need to read them all again.

I have a bunch of questions which probably show how much I have gotten wrong. Let's start with the first. In Geochronology you say

• the two linear units from zero to the one-dimensional limit correspond to eight three-dimensional units. The constituents of the white dwarf are thus distributed to a number of distinct speed levels, with a maximum of seven.
-- [38] Larson, Dewey B., Universe of Motion , p. 97, where Larson derives the Titius-Bode Law as a natural consequence of the quantum speeds of FTL motion of planets.

Is that in Chapter 6 The Dwarf Star Cycle? The online text doesn't have page numbers,

I've had a hard time understanding what the two linear units are and how that corresponds to eight three-dimension (scalar?) units. You are very good with analogies and pictures. Do you have one for that concept?

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Re: The complex number re: time and timelines

Post by daniel » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:42 pm

twidlar wrote:Is that in Chapter 6 The Dwarf Star Cycle? The online text doesn't have page numbers,
Chapter 7, and the online text DOES have page numbers. Click on Universe of Motion in the menu on the left, and down the bottom of the chapter list there is a "Page Index" (just above "References") that brings up all the page numbers in the book, and you can click on the page number and it takes you right to that page.
twidlar wrote:I've had a hard time understanding what the two linear units are and how that corresponds to eight three-dimension (scalar?) units. You are very good with analogies and pictures. Do you have one for that concept?
Just think in terms of "Diagon Alley"... diagonals on a unit radius line, square and cube.

1D: 0 -> +1, 0 -> -1 -- 2 units

2D: (0,0) -> (+1,+1), (0,0) -> (+1,-1), (0,0) -> (-1,+1), (0,0) -> (-1,-1) -- 4 units

3D: (0,0,0) -> (+1,+1,+1), (0,0,0) -> (+1,+1,-1), ... (0,0,0) -> (-1,-1,-1) -- 8 units

In math terms, 21 = 2; 22 = 4; 23 = 8.
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Re: The complex number re: time and timelines

Post by twidlar » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:34 pm

Thank you very much. Your 3D line in "Diagon Alley" did it for me. Got it.

http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/um/ doesn't have page numbers. Is there another link that does? I will read ch 6 & 7.

I had two more question but I think your answer changes them..

• Does a white dwarf scatter randomly into 3D time or concentrate locally in time?

(or does it break up into 8 parts based on the 8 diagonal ends of the speed cube and concentrate locally in time there)

• Are the atoms of an apple scattered in 3D time?

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Re: The complex number re: time and timelines

Post by Ilkka » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:22 am

Hi Twidlar I have this RS site which might be better since there are actual books in PDF files and they can be downloaded. Hope this helps.

http://reciprocalsystem.org/

PS. I got this link from this forum. Some threads the old ones I think have this link.

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Re: The complex number re: time and timelines

Post by twidlar » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:02 am

Thanks. I'll dig into it. However I don't see the Universe Of Motion there.

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Post by daniel » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:07 pm

twidlar wrote:http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/um/ doesn't have page numbers. Is there another link that does? I will read ch 6 & 7.
Don't use that site... it's junk. Use Larson's official site: http://library.rstheory.org/
twidlar wrote:• Does a white dwarf scatter randomly into 3D time or concentrate locally in time?
(or does it break up into 8 parts based on the 8 diagonal ends of the speed cube and concentrate locally in time there)
First, you need to remember you are talking "motion" (speed), not geometry. Scattering depends on speed. Intermediate speed has 2d in space, and 1d in time, so it looks planar (ring) in space and linear (jet) in time. Ultra-high speeds have 1d in space and 2d in time, so they are the reverse--a jet in space and a ring in time. That "ring" is what we call an orbital position, and there can be up to 8, concentric rings.

There can be any number of "parts," but each part will have a distinct, quantized speed in one of the 8 speed ranges. Those speed ranges form the orbits.
twidlar wrote:• Are the atoms of an apple scattered in 3D time?
No. Atoms (Larson's "time region") are organized in 3D space. Think "marbles stuck on graph paper." Each marble is a "solid of time" making up an atom, arranged on the 3D spatial graph to give structure.
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Re: The complex number re: time and timelines

Post by daniel » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:10 pm

twidlar wrote:Thanks. I'll dig into it. However I don't see the Universe Of Motion there.
http://reciprocalsystem.org/PDFa/Univer ... y%20B).pdf
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